Comments on: Who Killed the Electric Car? http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/ Jonathan Smith is a web designer, graphic designer, and photographer in Harrisburg, PA. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:32:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: New Sweden http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/#comment-10 New Sweden Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:09:17 +0000 http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/#comment-10 The debate seems a bit heatend up. "Who Killed The Electric Car?" is the headline. I don't think that anyone actually killed it. It's just VERY tough to get it to work in the right way. Mitsubichi tried the "in-wheel" plug-in and had serious problems with it (failed?). The project manager of the Prius (Toyota) was asked in an interview about his ground brakeing innovation, said that if he'd to do it all over again he wouldn't (lead the project). He regrets his unbelievable sacrifice to get the project going with serious health issues as results. I don't think that this is so easy to say "Who killed the EV". If this actually will succeed and we will have an EV in reasonable time, governments from several nations and car producing companies needs to go joint venture. The investments and infrastructure is that huge. I wrote a diary on Daily Kos about one EV project that you will see out on the streets soon. How soon? We talk about a couple of years. Here's the link copy'n paste http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/16/15124/4985/984/478033 The debate seems a bit heatend up. “Who Killed The Electric Car?” is the headline. I don’t think that anyone actually killed it. It’s just VERY tough to get it to work in the right way. Mitsubichi tried the “in-wheel” plug-in and had serious problems with it (failed?). The project manager of the Prius (Toyota) was asked in an interview about his ground brakeing innovation, said that if he’d to do it all over again he wouldn’t (lead the project). He regrets his unbelievable sacrifice to get the project going with serious health issues as results.
I don’t think that this is so easy to say “Who killed the EV”. If this actually will succeed and we will have an EV in reasonable time, governments from several nations and car producing companies needs to go joint venture. The investments and infrastructure is that huge.

I wrote a diary on Daily Kos about one EV project that you will see out on the streets soon. How soon? We talk about a couple of years.

Here’s the link copy’n paste

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/16/15124/4985/984/478033

]]> By: Richard http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/#comment-9 Richard Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:44:17 +0000 http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/#comment-9 That is the longest winded bunch of crap from a oil employed truth basher I have ever heard. You obviously havne't done your homework either, and you bash others? The Testla is $98,000 and no one said the batteries would only last only 5 years. They begin to degrade at 5 years and then gradually many years after that. Most people DON'T drive more than 40 miles a day unless you're a paper copier salesman, like yourself. The EV1 was never considered an experimental car. There's no such classification, MORON! Many people drive low speed EV, without much thought to how far they go because they don't need to go far, smart fellow. In sensitivity to our energy volatility, It's in the world's interest that we transfer our consumption to alternative energies. Oil has gotten out of hand directly causing wars, lives, and now a recession. Believe me, smart guy, EV's are not only viable and needed, but they are coming into their own. Soon they will be very affordable, as in Mitsubishi's case, and of course, Tesla is coming out with it's new sedan EV that is a lot more affordable. So, my well versed ingoramous, read up before you try to pass your crap for truth. Amen That is the longest winded bunch of crap from a oil employed truth basher I have ever heard. You obviously havne’t done your homework either, and you bash others? The Testla is $98,000 and no one said the batteries would only last only 5 years. They begin to degrade at 5 years and then gradually many years after that. Most people DON’T drive more than 40 miles a day unless you’re a paper copier salesman, like yourself. The EV1 was never considered an experimental car. There’s no such classification, MORON! Many people drive low speed EV, without much thought to how far they go because they don’t need to go far, smart fellow. In sensitivity to our energy volatility, It’s in the world’s interest that we transfer our consumption to alternative energies. Oil has gotten out of hand directly causing wars, lives, and now a recession. Believe me, smart guy, EV’s are not only viable and needed, but they are coming into their own. Soon they will be very affordable, as in Mitsubishi’s case, and of course, Tesla is coming out with it’s new sedan EV that is a lot more affordable. So, my well versed ingoramous, read up before you try to pass your crap for truth. Amen

]]> By: kerry beauhrt http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/#comment-7 kerry beauhrt Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:31:26 +0000 http://www.smithcreate.com/2008/03/24/who-killed-the-electric-car/#comment-7 Nothing like a big lie, I suppose. Where in the world did you get th enotion that the automakers are "funded by the big oil companies."? GM execs would get a big laugh with such obvious proof of how stupid and ignorant viewers (and gullible believers) of that crockumentary film really are. Electric cars during the days of the EV-1 used lead acid and then NiMH bateries, you moron. A car with an NiMH battery pack required to achieve the 250 miles of range (of the Tesla) would need more than 60 kilowatthours of capacity - that is over 3000 POUNDs of NiMH batteries, stupid person, meaning you would need even more than those 60 KWhrs, thus even more weight. And guess what, a 250 mile range implies no AC, no hills, no fat tires. The Tesla seldom can travel over 210 miles and guess what else? That means you are limited to destinations less than 100 miles away. And what if there's a detour, bright fellow? And would you expect people who take trips to travel a mere 200 miles every day, even if he could get recharged at night? And that car cost $90,000 dollars. And the battery pack cost over $25,000, and won't last more than 5 years, making it the most horrendously expensive do-nothing vehicle since the Detroit Electric of 1907, the last successful electric car. And what about that EV-1 that the lying film claimed was a wonder car? It cost 3 times more than a much better Honda Civic, was nominated by auto writer a month ago as one of the 50 worst cars ever built, with that wonderful 80 mile range NiMH battery pack that cost over $20,0000 and wouldn't last beyond 5 years when used in an all-electric car like the EV-1. The car wasn't even legal for sale - it was classified by the Feds as an "experimental vehicle." Never were more than 800 of the 1100 EV-1s on lease at the same time. Only 50 morons of 5,0000 GM customers who had expressed interest in an electric car were stupid enough to sign the (very subsidiezed) lease agreement. The EV-1 took 8 hours (!!!) to recharge and cost over $43,000 to build. The Honda EV and Toyota Rav4 electric were both manufactured during this period and were both cancelled, one after only 6 months. The EV-1 was a piece of useless crap. You'd think someone as old as you would have at least a passing knowledge of what a personal vehicle is supposed to do. Ed Begley's big lie was that the car could meet the needs of 90% of the public. Unfortunately, people often need to travel more than 80 miles a day and 90% of the public doesn't even have a place to plug-in an electric car. And we all don't have $43,000 lying around to spend on a glofied grocery getter. Nothing like a big lie, I suppose. Where in the world did you get th enotion that the automakers are “funded by the big oil companies.”? GM execs would get a big laugh with such obvious proof of how stupid and ignorant viewers (and gullible believers) of that crockumentary film really are. Electric cars during the days of the EV-1 used lead acid and then NiMH bateries, you moron. A car with an NiMH battery pack required to achieve the 250 miles of range (of the Tesla) would need more than 60 kilowatthours of capacity – that is over 3000 POUNDs of NiMH batteries, stupid person, meaning you would need even more than those 60 KWhrs,
thus even more weight. And guess what, a 250 mile range implies no AC, no hills, no fat tires. The Tesla seldom can travel over 210 miles and guess what else? That means you are limited to destinations less than 100 miles away. And what if there’s a detour, bright fellow? And would you expect people who take trips to travel a mere 200 miles every day, even if he could get recharged at night? And that car cost $90,000 dollars. And the battery pack cost over $25,000, and won’t last more than 5 years, making it the most horrendously expensive do-nothing vehicle since the Detroit Electric of 1907, the last successful electric car. And what about that EV-1 that the lying film claimed was a wonder car? It cost 3 times more than a much better Honda Civic, was nominated by auto writer a month ago as one of the 50 worst cars ever built, with that wonderful 80 mile range NiMH battery pack that cost over $20,0000 and wouldn’t last beyond 5 years when used in an all-electric car like the EV-1. The car wasn’t even legal for sale – it was classified by the Feds as an “experimental vehicle.” Never were more than 800 of the 1100 EV-1s
on lease at the same time. Only 50 morons of 5,0000 GM customers who had expressed interest in an electric car were stupid enough to sign the (very subsidiezed) lease agreement. The EV-1 took 8 hours (!!!) to recharge and cost over $43,000
to build. The Honda EV and Toyota Rav4 electric were both manufactured during this period and were both cancelled, one after only 6 months. The EV-1 was a piece of useless crap. You’d think someone as old as you would have at least a passing knowledge of what a personal vehicle is supposed to do. Ed Begley’s big lie was that the car could meet the needs
of 90% of the public. Unfortunately, people
often need to travel more than 80 miles a day and 90% of the public doesn’t even have a place to plug-in an electric car.
And we all don’t have $43,000 lying around to spend on a glofied grocery getter.

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